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ncskiffs
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Posted: Sat Aug 27th, 2005 02:39 am |
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Thank you for the membership. I found your site very interesting. I am from southeastern North Carolina. I am building a skiff that is indigenous to the area and used by family in commercial fishing. I was amazed at simmularity to the pacific city dory. I am attaching a photo of the boat I took the lines off of. I was also wondering if Gilbert Vic was a local designer in Washington. Thanks for great site.
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Thom V
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Posted: Sun Aug 28th, 2005 06:02 pm |
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Hello NCSKIFF,
Thank you for the kind words on the site! Do know that it is participating folks like yourself that make these small boat message boards really happen.
Yes, Gilbert Vik is a Washington boat builder and small boat designer (may be retired now). He had his shop along the lower portion of the Columbia River for years. The small skiff I call the Vik Skiff was actually designed by his father Britanus Vik and put to paper in the 70's by Gilbert as the smallest Pacific City Dory as was practical for ocean use. As stated previously she is 15' 2" LOA, about 6' 4" wide at the gunnel and if built in the plywood stitch and glue epoxy method comes in at under 230 lbs. We run her with a 25 hp. Tohatsu 2 cycle (429 cc), and she does all things well including carring a lot of gear to beach camp.
We modified Gilbert's original design by adding the motor well, the "T" section from the well forward with a center seat bench for the pilot (storage under including gas tank), added the forward facing seat bench (again with storage under) and added a drop down deck forward that is scuppered, allowing water from a crab pot or two to go overboard and not in the boat. We have since added a bimini top with a roll up windshield that works just dandy. Below is a picture shortly after the build in 1985.
One thing we fooled around with over the years is bottom sponsons or skis. Currently she has two sponsons about 10" wide, 2" tall going forward from the transom and terminating just before the bow bottom turn-up. The skiff gets up on these and rides like a hydroplane at speed, 38+ mph empty with pilot aboard. Not really sure of the value of this additon, but she can hang onto a turn at speed enough for passagers to feel the g-force...
Please keep us informed of your build-out of your skiff. Posting a pic and a bit of text to this post from time to time will be of interest to many of us!
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JEM
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Posted: Fri Sep 30th, 2005 03:36 pm |
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| Nice looking skiff. Is that from "home grown" plans?
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Posted: Sat Oct 1st, 2005 02:52 am |
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| Well I see another nice well skiff. I am up the road from you in Morehead and do Simmons redos and on occasions a new one. YOU can't beat the simple runabouts as this type hulls.
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tom28571
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2005 02:18 pm |
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Thom V wrote:
Hello NCSKIFF,
We run her with a 25 hp. Tohatsu 2 cycle (429 cc), and she does all things well including carring a lot of gear to beach camp.
One thing we fooled around with over the years is bottom sponsons or skis. Currently she has two sponsons about 10" wide, 2" tall going forward from the transom and terminating just before the bow bottom turn-up. The skiff gets up on these and rides like a hydroplane at speed, 38+ mph empty with pilot aboard. Not really sure of the value of this additon, but she can hang onto a turn at speed enough for passagers to feel the g-force...
38mph with 25hp on a skiff! That is not very shabby!
Can you show some cross sections or photo from transom? More details on sponsons and what your before/after performance is with them.
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JEM
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2005 02:35 pm |
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Oops!
We modified Gilbert's original design...
I guess I understand if I read it better!
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ncskiffs
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Posted: Sun Oct 23rd, 2005 03:24 am |
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| Here is picture of my recently completed skiff. This was the first boat I have built. My Dad helped me with the layout and adjustment for my four-stroke engine. I was quick to learn that a clamp is the the boat builder's best friend and a block plane coming in second. This boat was a joy to build from the experience to the finished product. Thanks again for your site. Attachment: boat2.JPG (Downloaded 123 times) Last edited on Fri Nov 4th, 2005 01:06 pm by ncskiffs |
Thom V
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Posted: Fri Nov 4th, 2005 02:44 pm |
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Here is a bow view pic of the starboard 'ski' or sponson on the Vik Skiff. Again, there are 2 of these -- one port and one starboard -- on the bottom going forward from the bottom of the transom. They are 2"+ thick and about 10" wide. They are built out and shaped from hard foam with 3/8 " ply sides and bottom, then covered with 10 ounce fiberglass and epoxy. As we added them at the time of the skiff built we do not have before speed trials. One thing is certain. Flat bottom boats tend to ride at speed with their bow up; the 'skis' seem to keep the boat bow down and level at speed.
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Ed944
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Posted: Wed Dec 20th, 2006 05:26 pm |
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| Hello ,i just found this site it's just what i was looking for,thank you for letting me join in. I have had a dory for year's she was a 20 footer and was the best of all the 50 or more boat's i have own over the years.I got her back in 1974 in Lincolin city oregon, it was in realy bad shape then,but after hr's and hr's of hard work i had her in tip top shape again.I keep her in in the water all year and fished , crabed, ever day i could get out, even went out on a tuna trip, about 50 mile's out . It broke my hart to of had to sell her. every since i have been looking fo anouther , but everything i was was not what i realy wanted. Till today when i saw this boat.i know i could build it from the pic's you have in your site , But it would be a lot better if i was to have some plan's from some one .I'am liveing in Reedsport oregon now and have for the last 34 year's , i fish by myself now day's and this boat would be just what i need .Any help from anyone would be great. And thank's again for the site . Ed.
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Thom V
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Posted: Sun Dec 31st, 2006 06:40 pm |
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Hi Ed,
Well, this has taken a bit of time and effort to put together... I posted the original article that Gilbert Vic wrote for "Lines & Offsets" magazine in 1979. Gilbert shows the building dimensions and two fairly traditional ways to build-out this mini Pacific City Type Dory. Click HERE to go to the SBF Boat Adventures page for a download.
If you build it will you kindly post some photos of your progress?
Best in the New Year, Thom V
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Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2007 05:22 pm |
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Hi Thom,
I registered and logged on so I could tell you how pleased I am that you've posted the article about this boat from 'Lines and Offsets'. I thought about doing it myself but I loaned my copy to someone years ago and it has never made it back home.
The picture of the 'skiis' clarifies what I have wondered about ever since you built your boat, which was many years ago as I recall. I would guess they help with the top speed when lightly loaded and perhaps hinder topspeed when heavily loaded. They will stiffen the bottom a lot and if the boat hangs on in a turn like you say, they are a tremendous plus for turning.
A well for the motor, such as you have, will also tend to reduce top speed when heavily loaded. It will not hurt topspeed when lightly loaded.
So as most folks know, there are tradeoffs for every change made on a boat or design.
Personally, I have never used a better skiff than this design. I hope a lot of folks build one. It would be a great tribute to my dad and his knack for getting things about right when designing and building boats.
Thanks for a great website,
Gilbert
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spokaloo
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Posted: Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 03:40 pm |
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You have no idea how excited I was to stumble upon this.
I have been trying to recreate a Pac City dory from photos and memory, for which I could scale down to a 14-15' workboat. Being a native Oregonian, and spending a good deal of time in PC, I love the boats, but living in Spokane, Wa, never see them.
My lines were not coming out as sweet as I had hoped, and I had begun to contact other designers. I received an email address to whom I thought was Mr Vic, but never received a return.
To see this on the forum had me elated! Ill be working out the details this week for the boat.
Speaking of, do you still have those panel developments Thom? Or was that a part of the building process the shop handled? Any info is appreciated!
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Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 08:01 pm |
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| spokaloo, maybe i can help you out with your design, i have been envolved in dory building since i was about 4 years old the latest being the 22ft fa-kar-we and the 18ft fa-kar-we anyway. i praise anyone trying to keep these lengendary boats alive send me some pics of what you have,
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Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 10:23 pm |
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I just sent you a private message about this dory thing, good timing!
Tried to reach some PC local builders, but nobody was willing to help.
Thanks!
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 11:22 am |
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Pacific City Dory- The Pacific City Dory Derby is held here in July, an exciting event to watch as contestants launch boats, circle Haystack Rock. t was built by Terry Learned of Pacific City and it looks awesome.
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